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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:08 am 
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Its proably been posted already but Streetlight Manifesto's new cd (sorta) is out a.k.a. leaded on the internet, not that downlading should be encouraged it is amazing expectedly but it is a re-recording of keasbey nights.


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i think that is the most lame thing they could ever do
re-recording keasby nights that is
its just an excuse for them to play those songs live

if i were in that position, i would just leave it alone and let the past be the past

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i have it...

its hardly an improvement, and i dont see anything special about it, other than the production quality in the sound is better

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Will the Thrill wrote:
i have it...

its hardly an improvement, and i dont see anything special about it, other than the production quality in the sound is better



why fix it if it isnt broken? i'm listening to it right now, i dig it pretty much. i just wish theyd record new songs. i've heard that they play em at shows so its not like they dont have them.


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BRENDAN! wrote:
Will the Thrill wrote:
i have it...

its hardly an improvement, and i dont see anything special about it, other than the production quality in the sound is better



why fix it if it isnt broken? i'm listening to it right now, i dig it pretty much. i just wish theyd record new songs. i've heard that they play em at shows so its not like they dont have them.


why fix it if it isnt broken? the same question can be asked with why rerecord something that doesnt need rerecording. the original in itself is influential to so many bands and people, that i think tomas rerecording it because he wanted to have it done the way he "intended" was just a bit selfish, and didnt really need to be done

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touche sir


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why why why?!?!?!? Write new songs! This cd was already good...whatever now streetlight fanatics will waste money on yet another cd they dont need...


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I suppose it gives them an excuse now to play all the old songs, not that they didn't play some before.

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well i don't think he needs an excuse to play those songs, at least at shows, and I've heard that catch 22 doesnt do them justice these days. But make some new songs, dammit!


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From the end of 1234 1234:

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1: Please describe the experience of making the new album.
-Making the record was not unlike chipping out each piece.

2: What took so long to make it?
-Did it take long? If so it's because be are very busy. You see, bands make almost nothing from record sales, so we were out touring and whoring in order to pay rent. Plus some other reasons which we are keeping quiet. We rely a lot [cuts out]...

3: What is the record exactly, as it's called Keasbey Nights, but no one knows yet what the record contains.
-It's Keasbey Nights. We wanted to get it right for once. Plus let's me sleep at night knowing that blood sweat and tears are poured into a record as opposed to paying 13 bucks for a record they only put a flashy new cover on it. This release is a pre-emptive strike, I guess. Whatever you want to call it, it'll piss people off. And that, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.

-This confuses me, aren't they paying 13 bucks for a record they already own? Because that is what I thought was happening, sounds like I have it wrong?
-Yep you've got it wrong. If there's one thing I can't stand it's when a CD is re-released untouched sonically, with a new cover, and maybe a live video and kids are tricked into buying this new edition of something they already have. I was upset when I was told the guys were going to do this with Keasbey so I offered to re-record it, because I've always thought it sounded like pure garbage sound-wise. Plus, the budgets we get are laughable, particularly for a band with 7 musicians to record, so we used some of our own money and took our time with this one. I'll tell you right now, we have no intent of hiding our intentions, we wanted to prevent the re-release of Keasbey untouched as well as to get the record to sound how it should have sounded originally. For that we sacrificed months of our time, and our money and now we feel what we have is worth paying for. Although, truth be told, I don't care if a single record is sold as it is, indeed, old music and kids have a right to know what it is and to decide whether or not they'll pay for it. Do I think it's worth 13 dollars? Yes, very much so, but that's my opinion. What other people decide, that's their own opinion. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold.

We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold.

-Wow. Okay. First time I have heard it said that this is the same songs. Every time you were asked, you skirt that issue.
-Whatever you want to call it, we will piss people off. And that, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.

-As my good friend always says, you are indeed a cassette, and unfortunately just don't get it.
Peace out bitches.

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LaZy wrote:
I suppose it gives them an excuse now to play all the old songs, not that they didn't play some before.


I don't think any band needs excuses to play their old songs. Most people go to see a band to hear them play their old stuff....(most of the time)....rolling stones, rush,...the offspring, people only want to hear the older stuff so thats what they play.


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Uh well Keasby's Nights was Catch 22's release, not Streetlight. Regardless of who wrote the songs it was a different band, hence an excuse because now this new CD is under Streetlight's name.

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tom doesn't need an excuse to play his own songs.

for now, i'll just withhold my opinion on the album cause i don't feel like typing it all up, but...

this is what i had to say explaining why they re-recorded it elsewhere (since it seems a lot of people aren't listening to the end of 1234 or just don't get it):

it breaks down to, victory was going to re-release keasbey nights with extras on it. it was actually announced if you remember- someone mentioned seeing it at a table at warped tour or something like that. tom must have gotten wind of it and talked to the guys at the label and explained how he felt about albums being re-released with extras for the mere sake of forcing kids to drop more money on the album a second time around.

that, in conjunction with things that he was apparently unhappy with on the original version and a wish to make it sound the way it should have originally (we won't discuss whether he accomplished this or not) led to him offering to re-record it with streetlight so that Victory could have their record they wanted to re-release, the kids wouldn't be getting the SAME EXACT thing for their money a second time around, and he could attempt to make it sound the way he wished it had originally.

This also explains why so many of the songs are so incredibly similar to the originals. The point wasn't to make it their own. It's NOT new Streetlight because it's not NEW Streetlight.

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LaZy wrote:
Uh well Keasby's Nights was Catch 22's release, not Streetlight. Regardless of who wrote the songs it was a different band, hence an excuse because now this new CD is under Streetlight's name.


no offense, but thats a lot easier to say when youre not a musician

and nobodys saying their streetlight's songs, but i think we can all agree that their tomas's songs


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Less to do with whatever my musican status is, more to do with the specific situation being so sticky. But now streetlight can and will play whatever Keasby and Numb songs they want so all is well.

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